Doing that would probably create a fairly popular blog post with followups. It might even get to the reddits and hackernewses and generate tons of comments where people would duke it out on issues on user choice vs the safety provided by a curated walled garden. There would be hundreds, if not thousands, of snarky tweets that make their poster feel superior for a while but are ultimately not productive. To quote Star Trek Deep Space Nine:
Spare me please-think-of-the-children speech and I'll spare you the users-must-have-control-over-their-own-devices speech [1].Having us, the user and developer community, argue about this issue is pointless, unproductive and actively harmful. This particular phenomenon is not new, it even has a name. In fact this approach is so old that the name is in latin: Divide et impera. Divide and conquer. All the time and energy that we spend on arguing this issue among ourselves is time not spent on working towards a solution.
The actual solution to this issue is conceptually so simple it could be called trivial. The entire problem at hand is one that has been created by Apple. They are also the ones that can solve it. All they have to do is to add one new piece of functionality to iOS devices. Specifically that users who so choose, can change an option in the device they own allowing them to download, install and use any application binaries freely from the Internet. Enabling this functionality could be done, for example, in a similar way to how Android phones enable developer mode. Once implemented Apple would then make a public statement saying that this workflow is fully supported and that applications obtained in this way will, now and forevermore, have access to all the same APIs as official store apps do.
This is all it takes! Further, they could make it so that IT departments and concerned parents could disable this functionality on their employees' and children's devices so that they can only obtain apps via the app store. This gives both sets of users exactly what they want. Those who prefer living in a walled curated garden can do so. Those with the desire and willingness to venture outside the walls and take responsibility of their own actions can do so too and still get all the benefits of sandboxing and base platform security.
Apple could do this. Apple could have done this at launch. Apple could have done this at any time since. Apple has actively chosen not to do this. Keep this is mind if you ever end up arguing about this issue on the Internet. People who have different priorities and preferences are not "the enemy". If you get into the flaming and the shouting you have been divided. And you have been conquered.
[1] Might not be a word-for-word accurate transcription.
Apple is a private company that in my opinion should be able to provide a walled garden and take a large piece of all sales on their devices as long as a large alternative (Android) exists. Developers are not obligated to make iOS apps and users are not obligated to purchase Apple products. One of Apple's key selling points versus Android is that what you are discussing is not allowed. Allowing it would weaken their brand and user experience.
ReplyDeleteFor example, if Mom decided she doesn't like the app store policy of taking 30% from developers in app purchases and enabled this mode, downloaded an app from the internet and this app happened to have some code that causes the app to spam other users email, or deceptively sign her up for auto renewing payments. Mom would be angry with Apple. Walled Garden users would be angry their being spammed on their Apple devices. Apple's brand would be damaged and they have lost the control that enables them to carefully curate/control how everything on the devices work.
I personally switched from Android specifically to get away from this behavior after many years of AOSP use. Access to api's without control will still eventually lead to degrading Walled Garden users' experience. You state that conceptually this may be a simple fix but on Android Google year by year makes doing much of what you describe harder and harder for similar reasons to Apple. Banking, healthcare and finance apps don't feel they can protect themselves without a mostly locked down device. Users don't want to have their device slow down or do annoying things and when they do they make the respective company look bad and leads to the loss of customers. I used microg for a couple of years and watched as more and more apps no longer function as Google also doesn't really want to support this type of device.
The US made an ambiguous proclamation making it sound like the Apple App Store would no longer be able to offer WeChat, this would have lead to the loss of virtually all users in Mainland China as this app is highly valued for easily functioning in society. In my opinion, the appopriate action for companies that don't like Apple's policies is to pull their apps. The more game companies that leave Apple and exclusively offer their games on Android devices the faster gaming users will be pulled away from Apple devices. We already see this behavior on gaming systems like Playstation and Xbox where certain users want specific titles and buy the respective systems accordingly.
Much as user choices should be protected, so should companies freedom to provide a product that their users value. If the world only had Apple devices for sale I would agree with your assessment but we as users have a multitude of choice when it comes to phones and how to use them. An Android device with F-Droid is functional without the need for Google. The same is true for Purism's Librem 5 or the Pinephone. They aren't perfect but are very much an option. I for one want the option of the existing locked down device provided by Apple and I purchased accordingly.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion mr account-created-for-the-sole-purpose-of-writing-this-comment.
DeleteI was indeed inclined to even open up a blog (at last) and start with an answer to Miguel's post. But I agree that it would be ultimately pointless.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I'm having trouble understanding how Miguel's not-so-floss-friendly opinion could end up in GNOME's planet feed. Since he openly told (a few years ago) he didn't believe in Linux anymore and thinks Apple should be the way to go.. I think he has all the rights to have its own blog, but it should not be federated in GNOME's planet. It doesn't represent GNOME at all.
The link to Miguel's post where he basically says Linux desktop is going nowhere: https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html
DeleteActually, account was created just for signing up for Youtube TV before they raised the prices. Now it simply acts as a Google account I never use. ;-)
ReplyDeleteIt would be possible, but I can't see how it would be profitable. First, the app store brings in a lot of profit directly. Second, the 30% share of all payments would have a strong incentive to not sell anything through the app store. The result would be that most apps would have to be sideloaded, and it's the users' responsibility to decide if the app is trusted enough to be installed (I understand that app store review sometimes really sucks, but at least the most blatant crap will eventually be removed). Basically, for many users the result would be similar to crapware-infested Windows PC with the additional joy of being carried everywhere and having a camera and microphone. Another solution would be avoid installing apps for anything that can be done in browser, but mobile browser user experience doesn't really match native apps (neither does browser-wrapped-in-app framework of the day but let's not go there). Desktop Linux is too obscure to have the worst crap targeted at it, but still you generally think twice before installing anything that's not in distribution. There is a market for products like this but there is already strong competition from laptops and Android and I'm not sure if there is much profit to be made there.
ReplyDeleteWrong, the result would be a market of App Stores, with different payments cut and different security records. And of course some applications doing update on their own, just like on Android we have things like Amazon Appstore, F-Droid and more.
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